Unless you meet an enlightened Master and become enlightened yourself, erase all the past karma for you, you’ll never go anywhere doing bad or doing good. Doing bad, you go to hell; doing good, you reincarnate maybe as human or maybe in Heaven and then come back again.
So, after this story, do you have any questions or you have any feeling, any thinking, any takeaway?
(Master, was Alexander the same king that we heard about one time? I think Master had mentioned a story about the king who went to find the lake in India, and there was a pool of eternal youth.) Yes? (And he tried to find that lake.) Yes? (Is it the same king? Was that Alexander?) I guess it’s the same. Who else would conquer India? (Was he a spiritual practitioner or he had some kind of information about such places like the Garden of Eden?)
Maybe afterwards. Maybe after he conquered India, he might have met some Masters and opened his wisdom eye. This story may be one of the stories that he met the Master. In other books I read about him, he has met some high practitioners, high Yogis or Masters, and then that Master or Yogi had predicted his death, (Yes.) saying that, “Whenever you see the sky turn into silver, you will die.” (Yes.) So, he died under the canopy which was made of silver, (Oh.) that covered him when he was sick, (Oh.) when he was unwell. That’s what the Yogi had told him.
You see, there are many things the Master or the prophecy has told us, but mostly it’s in like a metaphorical kind of story. (Yes.) Or like a parable. So, if you don’t have the wisdom eye open, you would not be able to suspect or to interpret what it is. (Yes.) When Alexander heard that, he probably would think, oh then he would never die. Because the sky cannot be silver, can never turn into silver. The sky has no substance, no essence of any solid elements. That’s what he probably must be thinking, right? (Yes.)
Maybe it is written in the history, or maybe not. I don’t remember, but I guess he must have felt invincible. (Yes.) You never know. If you don’t know how to interpret the Sages’ teachings or premonitions, you would be living in ignorance and then disaster may befall you anytime; you would never know.
Sometimes I read stories I feel are very interesting, so I wanted you also to know. Because it has a lot of philosophy in it. No? (Yes, Master.) We could learn a lot, and we could take away a lot, to learn to be more humble and more attentive to what is a priority in our lives. (Yes.) It reminds me also of the ephemeral nature of this world and then we may be awakened through the story to go to find some solution, some spiritual solution to our life. Not just being busy all-day, all-night, working, sweating, just to put food in the mouth and to put clothes on our back.
Even Abraham, he was pondering all by himself. Remember? (Yes, Master.) Even though he did not have any Master, he was already thinking. It’s better to think of something more spiritual, I mean, higher than our life, not just working, working, earning a living, putting food in the mouth and digesting it, and putting clothes on or vying with each other for possessions, prestige and whatnot, for position or political powers. That is not our priority. And because you can see it. What’s the use of Alexander conquering so many great countries, and die just under a canopy, a silver-colored umbrella? (Yes.) Anymore, love? Any other questions?
(I have one more follow-up. It’s the story about the Garden of Eden, last time. In some versions of the story, the tree that Adam took the apple from was called the “Tree of Knowledge.”) Yes. (And I was wondering why it was forbidden or what is the connection with knowledge that was forbidden by god, and does this still have some meaning today? Is it against god’s will for people to seek too much into knowledge, or at least how was it bad for Adam to… or what was wrong with accessing knowledge from the Tree of Knowledge?)
Good question. Very smart question. The translation may be wrong, or may be slightly different from god’s intention. If it is correct, it should be in some other book that would say that the tree bears the fruit, and if you eat it, you will know the wrong and the right. Or you’ll know the good and the bad. (Yes, Master.) Now I suspect that this is the… It’s not about the Tree of Knowledge. It’s just something that is forbidden in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Just like I told you the story last time, when we were beginning to explore this early planet and we ate this and that, and then we became more solidified, (Yes.) more heavy. We could not fly, we could not be free, we could not think so nobly like before, or we could not be as wise as before. This is not just about the food. Then later on, because of eating so much different food, it changed the chemicals of our celestial makeup and made us become more like a solid being, like we are right now.
The humans then began to have more different desires, physical desires for each other and all that, which did not occur before the tasting of all the food on Earth in front of them and wherever they found it. And then because of that, we’d gone into a different kind of dimension of behaviors, of desires. And then it’s different; we changed. The chemicals in our body changed, and we desired intimate body connections with others. We had to build houses, or go into caves to hide, to do all these kinds of activities with the opposite.
Because, after eating so many things, our chemistry, our chemical makeup changed. Our celestial components changed into something more material, a lower level than before. It depends on what they ate and how much they ate; they became either men or women or in-between. (Oh!) We call them “trans” nowadays. Trans or gay or lesbian, right? (Yes.) It depended on how much they ate at that time and what kind of things they ate, then they changed. And the one who had become a woman is more defined in bodily contours. That’s what you say? Correct? (Yes.) Shapes. (Yes.) The man, the one who turned masculine, became more robust, strong, and with a different kind of mentality. The men at that time saw the beautiful women, then began to desire them. And thus, they had a couple’s relationship and so on, and so on, and so on, until today.
So the tree in the garden, it could mean not just the knowledge, (Yes, Master.) but, by the way, the knowledge of wrong and right, of good and bad. What’s the use of knowing that? (Yes.) (Yes.) In Heaven, there are no words, I mean in higher Heaven, there are no words in the dictionary that say “bad” or “good.” Like in the Tim Qo Tu’s Land, they don’t even know those words “good” or “bad.” Everything is just is, as is, and fine, noble and wonderful. That makes you just feel no desire for anything, just happy, blissful all the time. And meanwhile, you have your creativities and all kinds of activities that you want to do, so you don’t lose anything not knowing the bad or the good. (Yes, Master.)
After eating the apple, knowing the bad and the good, you see what good it is? (Yes.) And then Adam began to have this physical desire and relationship with Eve. From then on, they go on to do more things that are not Heaven-like quality, until god has to expel them. (Yes, Master.) The knowledge of good and bad in this world, we know. But what does it help us? Even if we try to avoid the bad quality actions and we try to do all the time the good, it will not take us anywhere. It just takes us to another reincarnation, and experience another temptation or bad obstruction again.
Unless you meet an enlightened Master and become enlightened yourself, erase all the past karma for you, you’ll never go anywhere doing bad or doing good. Doing bad, you go to hell; doing good, you reincarnate maybe as human or maybe in Heaven and then come back again. Even as the king of Heaven, you will also one day come back as animals even. It depends on your merit or your karma.
And so, the knowledge of good and bad, even if it was true that if you eat the apple in the Eden garden and you are aware of the knowledge of good and bad, of wrong and right, does that knowledge serve you anything? (No.) Does it make your life better than in Eden? (No.) No. Nothing. Just pushes you into the river of life and death, reincarnation, suffering, sorrow and some moments of happiness, but the rest are just suffering, painful. More painful than happiness in this life. That’s why god doesn’t want him to eat it. (Yes.) Do you see it now? (Yes, Master.) I mean, would you prefer to eat that? (No, Master.) So now you try to vomit it out for me and then we go back to Heaven. OK? Spit it out.