I don’t care who says what. At least we should tell other people to be veg. No matter how well you talk. Eloquence belongs to the Second level only. If someone’s speech can make other people cry, become high, jump around and sing hallelujah, etc., that person is at the Second Level. Or the First Level, when he/she touches our emotional part. It doesn’t mean he/she is someone great. In contrast, spiritual practice is different.