Sometimes the guru comes to you for emotional reason, sometimes comes for enlightenment reason. So it depends on what you need. Some need for emotional purpose, some for intellectual purpose. Some just to feel like have somewhere to hang on to, some group, belong to somewhere, feel like belonging. Some just need enlightenment, just want to be one with God, just want to know God. It’s a different group, you see? But then we have to go to the lands of no land. The vision of no vision anymore. The limitless type of formless God, at least to the Fifth Level. Mostly Vipassana (meditation) will not bring you to the Fifth Level. It has to use this, one by one, to go up to the Fifth. The last Name is Fifth Level God. We have to recite it so that all the guardians will open the door for us to go up, one by one. All Third Level gods or goddesses, the chief, must be reborn. Within the Three Worlds, there’s always creation and destruction going on all the time. The Fourth Level is in between. The Fifth Level, then you’re safe forever.