Host: On Friday, October 22, one of our Supreme Master Television team members sent our Most Beloved Supreme Master Ching Hai some shocking news, asking advice on it.
“Media Report from NBC Sept. 16, 2021: Pope Francis says that Catholic bishops should be pastors, not politicians. His comments came Wednesday during a flight from Slovakia to Rome. He said that bishops must serve with ‘compassion and Tenderness, not condemnation.’”
Then, Master kindly called to give the following answers on the matter.
(Earlier on in September, Pope Francis was calling for compassion and not condemnation for Biden and for other abortion-supporting Catholic politicians. So the pope is supposed to have compassion for babies. Why then does he say such a thing, that we should show compassion to Biden and to other abortion-supporting politicians?)
Yeah. You should ask him, not me. (Yes.) But I guess the Church has to survive and “we need donations.” (Yes.) Or whatever. They’re Catholics, all these people. (Yes, Master.) Roman Catholics. And the Church is a Catholic church, (Yes.) so maybe it’s different from a Christian church, and a Catholic church. (Right.) Maybe in the Catholic Church, the devils and angels can mix together. In Heaven, it’s not like that. (Yes, Master.) In Heaven, good is good, bad is bad. Bad cannot be there. (That’s right.)
I feel compassion for these people also. (Yes.) But I don’t know why I should. They live their life well, they’ve been well paid all their lives, they’ve been pampered, respected and spoiled, (Yes, Master.) and they didn’t do much. They didn’t do much good for anybody. Not only they don’t do good, they kill babies. Imagine if the pope himself were killed immediately the day he was ripped out of his mother’s womb. Would he like that then? (Exactly, Master. No.) Would he probably feel compassion for the people who killed him?
It’s not just about these babies. It’s the principle at stake. (Yes, Master.) Catholic or Christian, there is a rule, “Thou shalt not kill.” And the pope, should be the first one who teaches them that, if they have not abided by that principle. (Yes, Master.)
Otherwise, what for you go to the church? (Yes, exactly.) What for all these pious people, they pay tax for the church. They pay donations, they do all kinds of charities for the church, and they keep all the principles, at least they don’t kill humans, (Yes.) and anybody else can just also come in, and then kill anybody because they have power in their hands.
This is not politics. It is human lives! (Yes, Master.)
“Media Report from EWTN Pro-life Weekly May 15, 2020: These are little human beings. These little babies, still in the womb, do feel pain at a very early age. As early as 12 weeks. All of the nerve tracts are present, the connections to the part of the brain that we now know, do help us experience pain. All of this is in place, starting at 12 weeks, and definitely finalized by 18 weeks. And we need to think again about how this humanizes even more what previously had been characterized as a clump of tissue. Obviously, these young human beings, the science backs up what we know in our heart – they do feel pain. They move, they turn, they smile in fact in a number of the ultrasounds, and these young human beings deserve respect and human dignity.”
“Testimony by Ms. Jill Stanek July 5, 2017: But I came to work one night in my capacity as a labor and delivery nurse, and I received two terrible blows. The first was finding out that the hospital was involved in late-term abortions. I heard a report that we were aborting a second trimester baby that night with Down syndrome. And the second was finding out that the method of abortion that the hospital used, as John was describing, sometimes resulted in babies being aborted alive, and if they were aborted alive, they were allowed to die without any medical intervention whatsoever. I came up on a passage that I thought spoke directly to me and it’s Proverbs 24:11-12, and it says, ‘Rescue those who’ve unjustly been sentenced to death. Don’t stand back and let them die. Don’t try to disclaim responsibility by saying that you didn’t know. For the Lord Who knows our hearts, knows you knew. And He will reward everyone according to his deeds.’”
“Media Report from C-SPAN2 2015: Why did you end your practice of doing abortions? (I did over 1,200 abortions over a four-year period in private practice, not counting the ones I did during my training. Two months short of my daughter Heather’s sixth birthday, she was killed in an auto accident and literally died in our arms in the back of an ambulance. And I don’t remember exactly how long it was after my daughter died that I showed up at Albany Medical Center OR [operating room] number 9, to perform my first second trimester D&E abortion. I wasn’t thinking of it as anything special, this was routine to me. For the first time in my life, I really looked. I really looked at that pile of body parts on the side of the table, and I didn’t see her wonderful right to choose, and I didn’t see all the money I just made. All I could see was somebody’s son or daughter. And I stopped doing late-term abortions after that, and several months later stopped doing all abortions.)”
And this is against the first principle of Christianity, “Thou shalt not kill.” (Yes, that’s right.) In any religion also, not just the Christians. (Yes.) Especially for the Christians, that should be very, very clear. (Yes, Master.)
I don’t understand this pope, truly. I was very respectful of him before. And then it seems to me like he’s falling, falling, falling down for anything, (Yes.) as long as he can play good guy, (Yes.) and then the Church is still there because all the big shots support it. (Yes, Master.) They are the president, they are house speaker madam, they are senators. They are tough. They are powerful. (Yes, Master.) Oh, I can’t believe it. The Church even kowtows (Yes.) to the powers that be.
The Church is supposed to be on the side of God, not the side of Satan. (Yes, that’s right.)
“Media Report from EWTN Pro-life Weekly Oct. 9, 2021: You have spoken very clearly saying abortion is a satanic ritual. Can you speak more to that because our culture equates abortion with healthcare. (Yes. It's another one of the smokescreens they use. The smokescreen of choice, the smokescreen of healthcare of reproductive choice and so forth. The Texas Heartbeat law is being challenged by the satanic temple precisely on the grounds of it's a violation of their religious liberty. They need to have access to abortion to carry out their rituals. It's a satanic practice. And when we figure that, what is it, one out of four pregnancies in our country ends in an abortion, we're literally in the grip of the devil.)”
These people, they’re working for Satan. (Exactly.) They’re killing innocent babies, not even at war. Just rip the baby out and kill it. Just like that. (Yes, it’s horrible. Yes, it’s wrong. Terrible.)
My God, imagine, if the pope was that baby? (Yes. He would not like that.) (No way.) Wow, then he wouldn’t be sitting there talking so big, (Yes, exactly.) and nonsense, and uncompassionate. (Yes.) Compassion should be for everyone, not for the powerful and the rich. (Yes. That’s right, Master.)
Not for the politicians. In that aspect, he is talking political already, and he told everyone else not to be a politician. But he is a politician, because he’s siding with the murderers! […]
And the other pastors or priests, they’re siding for the innocent, helpless babies. (Yes.) So, either way, both of them are political. (Yes.) If he accuses the other pastors… I saw it somewhere that he told his pastors they’re not to be politicians, not to talk political. (Yes, that’s right.) But he is doing it. (Yes.) And he’s worse than them.
If the others talk political, they talk about compassion, real compassion for the helpless, innocent children of God, in millions. Do you understand me? (Yes, Master.)
“Media Report from Alpha News March. 9, 2021: More of them are being killed every year in the United States of America than the death camp of Auschwitz killed in its entire five-year history, every year, after year, after year. We just elected a Catholic president who is diametrically opposed to all of the basic moral principles that are proclaimed by the Roman Catholic Church. I am incensed at what you are doing to someone else and I am called to protect. Woe to me if I don't preach the gospel. I have to stand up for this. And if you ask me a follow-up question, ‘Would you give him communion?’ No, over my dead body. Not until he repents. He's a public figure. He needs to publicly repent. We need to pray for his conversion.”
And here, he’s (the pope) siding a bunch of politicians who just use their power to kill. Not even to kill in war. (Yes, Master.) Not even to defend for their country. Just killing because they have power to kill. My God! (Terrible.)
Talking about a non-political viewpoint. Wow, bravo. Bravo, your Holiness. I should be speechless, but I have to say something. Because it’s boiling inside me for these innocent babies who have done nothing wrong to him. (Yes.)
He’s supposed to side with God. He’s supposed to work for God, not for Satan. (Yes, exactly, Master.) These people, they are Satan. If they can kill babies without blinking their eyes, they are Satan. They’re working for Satan. (Yes. Definitely.) Yes. And he’s siding with them. That means he’s not working for God. He’s one with them. (Yes.) He’s supporting them.
Oh, I do have compassion for him, because anyone who supports this kind of murderous policy will also go to hell with them, together. (Oh, wow.) So, he better have compassion for himself. (Yes, Master.)
It’s so easy now to sit there and talk so big because you are all protected. The pope and the big shots, the big politicians, the president and all that. (Yes.) But once you are in hell, nobody’s there for you. No bodyguards, no national guard, no Vatican guard, nothing. No lawyer can be helping you there. No one can be around you to help you. You’ll be burned separately or together. Either way. No one is there. You can’t even open your mouth to call for help. You can’t even remember God at that time. (Wow.) The pain will blind you out, will burn you out, will obliterate you, so that you can’t remember anything. (Yes.) And even if you call for God, the sin is too big; millions of babies died. (Yes, Master.) Yearly. And talking about being compassionate for the murderers. My goodness. […]
If you’re supporting or siding with the devil, then, you are also. (Yes.) He’s a cooperator. (Yes.) He’s an accomplice. […] My goodness, I cannot imagine for the life of me, for the hundred millions of years, I could not imagine the pope will say such things. If he doesn’t have anything better to say, he better shut up. (Yes, Master.) That would be fitting more of his position as a representative of God on Earth. My goodness. […]
Every day you read in the Bible, “Thou shalt not kill” (Oh, gosh.) and then here you permit them to do it and then even have to have compassion for them. (Yes.) Oh, I do have compassion, because they don’t know what they are going to experience in hell. They’re not going to Heaven. Heaven doesn’t have this kind of quality. So how can they go to Heaven? […] This kind of killing, or this kind of nonsense supporting for killing, uncompassionate support for murderers and the murdering process, legally even, they don’t have this in Heaven. (Yes.) How can Heaven accept these kinds of people? (Yes, Master.) […]
Whoever uttered that, I can’t expect that from the pope. Maybe somebody else said it and put it in his mouth. Maybe Satan put it in his mouth. (Yes.) It cannot be the pope who says such things. […]
I can’t believe this. I can’t believe what I hear, what I see. (Yes.) If you guys didn’t send it to me, I wouldn’t believe it. I wouldn’t know about it. I could not for one thousand million years imagine that he said such things. (Yes, Master.) […]
Now, I know why. I guess in my humble opinion, he supports Biden and Pelosi and all those who make the law for abortion (Yes, Master.) because they are powerful. They can help him. (Yes.) And the babies, they’re helpless, they’re useless to the pope. […]
That’s the only explanation I can find. (Yes.) […]
And, similarly, I also suspect with the gay and lesbian and bisexual and trans people. (Yes?) They are just two people. (Yes, yes.) They don’t have anything much to offer him. Maybe some donations. (Yes.) But no big deal. (Yes, doesn’t matter much to him.) No. But like Pelosi or Biden, they can offer hundreds of thousands of dollars or even millions. (Yes.) And, if he wants to visit any of the states, the politicians will support him, will make a pompous show to gather all the people (Oh, for sure.) and all their supporters to come. (Yes.)
Wow, it’s very, very glamorous. (Yes, it will be big.) Feel good like. (Yes.) It’s a feel-good occasion and possibility. But the babies, they can’t do anything. (Yes.) They can’t even talk for themselves. (Completely helpless.) And the gay people also. (Yes.) They already feel very ashamed to be rejected and outcast. (Yes, yes.) How could they even have anything else to offer? […]
You see, when it comes to the happiness of the people, like the gay marriage situation, he condemned it. He distanced himself from it. He rejected people who just wanted to be happy. Or would he like them to just sneak around, guiltily and then don’t dare to openly talk about it and then they get sick. The unhygienic situation that they have to be in, then they get sick physically, emotionally, mentally, psychologically.
So, the marriage of the two people for love, it is also sacred at least to these two people. They’ll be happy. They will be loving to each other and that contributes to the better atmosphere of our planet.
He kind of detested it. But when it comes to the murdering, killing of the innocent, of the pain and suffering thereof, he condones it. He encourages it. This is not normal behavior, not to talk about the behavior of a priest, a high priest, the highest priest in the Catholicism. […]
I have no more respect. I won’t pray for these people. I condemn them, all of them who support killing innocent babies by abortion. […]
The tenderness, compassion should be reserved for the babies! (Yes.) For the helpless ones, the children of God! (Yes. Exactly.) The creation of God that was given to humankind! Oh, I cannot talk anymore. God, what has become of this world? Oh God, it’s never been so terrible like this. Your representative, God, Your highest, so-called highest representative, he is condoning murdering! Your children! Your unborn children. Dear Lord, bless You, my God. You must feel very painful. My God. I had so much respect for him. And when he came out as a pope, I was so happy. I did even write him a letter to congratulate him and tell him that he touched my heart with his humility according to all this PR beforehand. He’s supposed to be a very humble pope. (Yes, Master.) Oh, and the power blinds him now. Everybody, gives him a salute and kowtows and now he became too big. […]
The world’s gone crazy. It’s all under the influence of Satan, blind. They all sell their souls or something, sell their souls to Satan for richness, for fame, for consolidation of their position, their power. They have no soul, no heart in them. Maybe Satan has taken all their souls away. They’re just an empty shell possessed by the demons. […]
Whatever excuse, killing is never the tenet of any religion and they profess that they are Catholic and even the head of the Catholics, the pope, acts against the tenet. (Yes.) The number one precept: “Thou shalt not kill.” Even five-year-old children know the Ten Commandments if they are Catholic or Christian. (Yes, Master.) […]
Even have to treat these murderers with tenderness. I saw that in the article. (Yes.) Can you believe that? (No.) And who is having compassion and tenderness for the babies who are just murdered immediately the day they’re born or before that. Nobody there to talk for the babies. (Yes, Master.) Nobody defends for it even if he cries, nobody hears. (Yes.) The whole world is deaf when it comes to goodness and compassion.
And there are many solutions. They can make orphanages. […] They can give them away. They have so much money to do that, especially America or Europe. (Yes, Master.) They can do it. Instead of protecting humans, they are killing humans in war and in peace as well.
If the government has an orphanage, and every woman who has an unwanted pregnancy, or unexpected pregnancy, but could not keep the child for any reason at all because life is sometimes really not very kind (Yes for sure.) to women or to people. (Yes.) And she will be feeling very relaxed and secure because she knows the government will accept her child. (Ah, yes.) Then, she would never want to kill her child. (Oh, yes.) I think 99.9 percent of women would never want to abort a child in their body. (Yes, understand.) She can give it to the government orphanage. (Yes.) Or maybe even an NGO (Non-governmental organization) will run it for the government.
The government would just back them up. (Oh, OK. Good idea.) Many volunteers would want to do it also. (Yes.) […]
“Media Report from SBS Dateline May. 15, 2013:
Pastor Lee Jong Rak (m): Oh! Baby, baby! Baby box, baby box.
Narrator (m): It’s a moment Pastor Lee Jong-rak has experienced many times. The arrival of a tiny bundle. A newborn left in his purpose-built baby box. In South Korea, hundreds of unwanted babies are abandoned every year.
Pastor Lee Jong Rak (m): ‘If you can’t raise your baby because he or she was born with a deformity, or you’re a single mother, don’t leave your baby to die. Open the box below and place your baby inside.’ When we open the door there and see the mom, we say, ‘Let’s chat for a minute.’ So, we try to counsel them, and for the moms who can raise the child, we return them to their moms, who get support from us, so they can raise them. If that can’t happen, we send them to the orphanage. The baby will be taken to the children’s hospital to be medically examined. If the baby’s healthy, it won’t be sent to an adoption agency at once, it’ll be sent to the orphanage. May God bless this baby’s future, and let her be protected, nurtured and healed in Your name. The baby has to leave soon, so I prayed for God’s blessing on her. I prayed for God’s guidance in her life and that she will grow to be great and distinguished in this world.”
So it’s very simple just to do that. (Yes, Master.) Why spend trillions for killing, and not spending some millions or billions just to save lives. (Yes.) That will be pleasing to Heavens and bring you a lot, a lot of merit. that will rescue yourself also, the day you die. (Oh, yes.) Whoever organizes all this. […]
To save a life is incredible blessing. Almost like limitless, then that will rescue your soul also. You don’t have to go to hell. […]
Oh, I’m so disappointed. I feel so pained. That one supposed to be the biggest religious leader in the world, (Yes, Master.) in the Christian world behaves like that. (Yes, Master.) Behaves so ignorantly, so wickedly. Uttering some wicked things like that to make an example for the world. […]
Our world must be coming to an end or something. How can that be, Because everybody wants to kill. (Yes.) […]
We cannot live without each other. (Yes, that’s right Master.) We cannot live without the population. Each one has a job to do. They stop all that. (Yes, Master.) They want the world to stand still. (Oh, yes.) No more workers, no more intelligence, no more helpers, no more inventors, no more great doctors, no more whatever. […]
We need younger people coming up for everything in society. Even laborers we need, because we’re short everywhere. (That’s right. Yes.) I read it in the news.
“Media Report from AI Jazeera Sept. 29, 2021: A fuel crisis, in one of the world’s richest nations. Petrol pumps in the UK are running dry because there aren’t enough truck drivers to deliver the fuel.”
“Media Report from ABC15 Arizona Oct. 19, 2021: A shortage of drivers, those who actually transport that fuel.”
“Media Report from CBS Philly Sept. 25, 2021: In the school district of Philadelphia, food services never delivered food yesterday for students’ breakfast and lunch.”
“Media Report from ABC Action News Sept. 15, 2021: Nationwide vet shortages now taking a toll at the Lakeland Animal Hospital.”
“FOX News Interview Oct. 12, 2021: There are 5 million fewer people working today than before the pandemic.”
That’s why many countries are short of electric power, short of gas power, (Yes.) short of many essential supplies even (Yes, that’s right.) and food. […]
And continue killing babies. Oh, coming from the pope. I don’t know what kind of food he eats every day that he had to spill out this kind of murderous speech. (Yes, Master.) […]
I’m risking myself, but I don’t care. I do care. I wish I live long so I can help more if I can. It’s just somebody had to say something. (Yes.) It’s all quiet for the murderers and the supporters, because they are the pope, they are pastors, they are presidents, they are house speakers, they are senators, (Yes.) or governors, or whoever they are. Top powerful people on this planet are leading all to hell. […]
I just truly hope that the world will get better. And God, please help us, otherwise all the innocent will be murdered in such a way that it is just like hell now. […]
You can see clearly, they are not humans. (Yes, Master.) They are demons (Yes, for sure.) or demon-possessed beings because they are so greedy for power that the demons can do it. They are not protected by morals, by God’s blessing, so they can be possessed and controlled by demons. […]
How these kind of people, sitting at the top, and misleading the world. […] Damaging the tenet of Jesus, (Yes.) and God’s commandments. […]
I condemn all these people. They are not good for the world. (That’s right, Master.) If they don’t repent, they should be condemned. […] They should do the opposite, then maybe I will have compassion. Maybe I will pray for them. But right now, they are devils. I don’t pray for the devils to prosper. I don’t pray for the devils to continue to harm innocent human beings and babies. […]
I just pray to God that they all listen. (We also.) I pray to God to give them the power to understand what I’m saying. To believe what I am saying and just to do what’s God’s will, because God says everywhere in all the religions “Thou shalt not kill.” […]
Host: We would like to express our immense gratitude for Compassionate Master’s courageous advocacy for the unborn, beloved children of God, who are in great need of protection and loving acceptance by all. May we help the next generation grow up to be valuable members of our communities as we cherish the youngest and oldest as equally significant. Wishing Gracious Master abiding peace and health, secured by all Heavenly Protectors.
To learn more about the benefits of creating orphanages, please tune in to Between Master and Disciples on Tuesday, November 9, for the full broadcast of this phone call.