My friend Moby
just co-wrote a book
called “Gristle” about
from factory farms
to food safety,
about the impact
of raising animals
and what it does
to our environment,
not to mention what it does
to our own bodies.
And it just shows that,
that it’s better
and more efficient
and more productive
to have a vegetarian
or vegan diet.
Vegan essentially.
“Gristle:
from Factory Farms
to Food Safety
(Thinking Twice
About the Meat We Eat)”
was released
in March of 2010.
When the book’s co-editors,
Moby with Miyun Park,
first went on tour
to promote its release,
Supreme Master Television
was present
on their first stop
in Los Angeles,
California, USA
in support of
the book’s message.
To our pleasant surprise,
we were met by some
of our mutual friends:
What brings you here
tonight?
To support Moby
and Miyun’s new book
“Gristle,” of course.
I’m here because
I’m a friend of Moby’s
and I’m
a very passionate vegan
and animal lover and
I want to support anybody
who is fighting to reduce
the suffering for animals.
What brings you here
tonight?
Oh my goodness!
Moby and his new book.
He’s such
a huge inspiration.
And his new book
looks really wonderful
“Gristle.”
Today and next week,
on Vegetarian Elite,
we will present to you
some of our insightful talks
with the multiplatinum
musician Moby
on the Golden Rule
and veganism, and
the goal he and Miyun
hope to accomplish
with “Gristle.”
And of course,
we will take a glimpse
into this factually bound
and eye-opening book
that’s creating quite a buzz
with readers,
book reviewers, and
even big corporations.
The only way
to have a good life
is to spend your life
being an advocate
for causes
that you believe in
and in whatever
capacity you can,
trying to make the world
a better place.
Richard Melville Hall,
known globally
in the music world
as Moby, is renowned for
his chart-topping music,
as well as
his social activism.
Although he has been
making music since age 9
and started out
in classical music, Moby
made a name for himself
in the early 1990s
with the release
of his progressive
house single “Go.”
Since then,
he has performed in
more than 3,000 concerts,
sold over 20 million
records worldwide,
released eight
Top 40 music singles
with much acclaim,
and garnered several
Grammy Award
nominations in effect.
He has created scores
for films like Heat
and James Bond:
Tomorrow Never Dies,
and his extraordinary
collaborations include
legendary musicians like
Lou Reed, David Bowie,
and Bono.
Perhaps equally impressive
to Moby’s musical career
is his social activism,
animal welfare advocacy,
and charitable works.
He has devoted
countless hours and
huge amounts of funding
to organizations like
The Humane Society
and Institute for Music
and Neurologic Function.
In fact, all proceeds
from the sale of “Gristle”
will go to benefit animal
welfare organizations.
At the “Gristle”
book signing event,
many attendees were
introduced to another of
Moby’s collaborators –
Miyun Park, who served
as the book’s co-editor
alongside Moby.
Miyun Park is
the Executive Director of
Global Animal Partnership,
which is an international
non-profit dedicated to
improving the lives
of animals in agriculture
through collaborative
multi stakeholder efforts.
She’s a board member
of Farm Forward
and serves on
the editorial board
of the Gateway
to Farm Animal Welfare,
a web portal created by
the Food and
Agricultural Organization
of the United Nations.
And before joining the
Global Animal Partnership,
she served as
the Vice President
of Farm Animal Welfare
of the Humane Society
of the United States
and Humane Society
International.
Miyun spoke
about the first time
Moby had contacted her
to work together
on reducing the suffering
of animals raised for food,
to the progression
of their friendship
to the present day.
Their like-minded concerns
led to the creation
of “Gristle.”
We had evolved
as advocates, not only for
environmental concerns
or other social justice issues
but you know,
most specifically for us,
for non-human animals,
that the issue isn’t
promoting veganism,
the reason is all about
reducing suffering.
And that’s
what’s so important,
I think, about this book,
that it gives you
all of this information
on how easy it is
to reduce the suffering
of individual beings
whose lives matter to them.
When we return
after this brief message,
we will learn about
how the Golden Rule
led Moby on the path
of veganism.
So I became a vegetarian
for the simple reason
that I liked animals and
it seemed inconsistent
to both like animals
and eat them.
And then that same criteria
that led me
to be a vegetarian,
led me to be a vegan.
Welcome back to
Vegetarian Elite
on Supreme Master
Television.
Today’s episode features
the multiplatinum
recording artist Moby and
the newly released book
he helped to co-edit:
“Gristle:
from Factory Farms
to Food Safety
(Thinking Twice
About the Meat We Eat).”
Turning a couple of
“Gristle’s” first pages,
readers will find
Moby’s introduction.
He writes:
I’m a vegan
and animal protection
advocate…
My agenda
as regards animals
and animal welfare
is also simple:
to end animal suffering.
My agenda had its nascence
when I was quite young
and I first heard
the Golden Rule:
“Do unto others
as you’d have them
do unto you.”
That’s the Golden Rule,
right?
When I was young, this
made a lot of sense to me
in an uncluttered
and beautifully
self-evident way.
But it then begged
a follow-up question:
who are these “others”
referred to
in the Golden Rule?
The 22-year vegan
shared with us how
applying this Golden Rule
can open up one’s heart
and increase our love
and respect for all beings.
Well, one of the reasons
I became vegan
is the Golden Rule,
you know the idea of
“Doing unto others
as you would have them
do unto you.”
And I talk about this
in the intro, is the idea,
“It’s easy to apply that
to our friends and
to our family.” (Right.)
And then you apply that
to all human beings,
and say like, “Well, okay
these human beings,
they all have two eyes,
they all have a central
nervous systems,
so clearly
if I don’t want to suffer,
I can assume
that other people
don’t want to suffer.”
And then
you apply that to animals,
you apply it to fish,
you apply it to birds,
you apply it…
For me, there’s no harm
in applying a circle
of compassion as far
and as wide as it can go.
And everyone benefits.
I can only speak for myself,
but the best way for me
to be unhappy and
anxious and depressed,
is to be selfish
and focused on myself.
The best way
to increase my happiness
and also hopefully increase
the happiness of others,
is to actually be concerned
for the wellbeing
of other people
and other animals.
So that’s a big part
of my veganism as well.
For some people
it’s purely health reasons.
For some people it’s
ethnical reasons because
they care about animals.
For some people it’s
because of deforestation,
because of water pollution,
because of air pollution,
because of climate change
there are myriad
different reasons why
someone might choose
to be vegetarian or vegan.
I think they’re all valid.
For me, I’m vegan
for all of those reasons
and also for
spiritual reasons as well.
I don’t like the idea
of creating suffering
when I don’t have to.
It’s one of my goals in life,
is to just diminish
the amount of suffering
on the planet.
Moby’s written introduction
in “Gristle” continues:
Later I was able to
expand upon my
Golden Rule extension,
and I came up
with a happy little
logical-sounding
catchphrase to justify
my veganism and
animal protection advocacy:
Death is unavoidable,
but suffering is avoidable.
Just as I hope to avoid
unnecessary suffering
in my life, I can assume
that all beings
capable of suffering
also hope to avoid it;
therefore,
we should do our best
to prevent suffering.
I’m really
proud of this book.
I think it’s a great resource.
And it reminds me…
One of the things
that sort of solidified
my veganism
and my interest
in animal rights
was the book
“Diet for a New America”
by John Robbins.
And because,
I think I was sort of
like a nascent vegan
and I read that, and that
just made me realize that
as much as I like yogurt,
as much as I like
some animal products,
I care about
animal suffering
too much to not be a vegan.
My hope is that
this would somehow
accomplish a similar thing
for someone that
“Diet for a New America”
accomplished for me.
I think
this is a remarkable book
and I hope that people
buy it and give it away
because
it has the potential to
actually change the way
that people think about
food production, and in
hopefully a very factual
non-didactic way.
That’s the goal.
On next week’s
Vegetarian Elite,
we will take a look into
the “information-packed,
lively, and informative”
guide “Gristle,”
and introduce the
15 esteemed contributors
of its 10 chapters.
They range from
chief executive officer
and co-founder
of FEED projects
Lauren Bush,
human rights activists
and granddaughters
of Cesar Chavez –
Christine Chavez and
Julie Chavez Rodriguez,
Ultramarathon champion
Brendan Brazier,
bestselling authors and
sustainable food advocates
Frances Moore Lappé
and Anne Lappé,
World Watch researcher
Danielle Nierenberg,
chief executive officer
of Whole Foods
John Mackey,
to the president and
chief executive officer
of The Humane Society
of the United States
Wayne Pacelle.
United, they deliver
a strong message
that touches on topics
like the environment,
taxpayers, children’s health,
zoonotic diseases,
and global hunger.
There are so many impacts
on industrial
animal agriculture, on all
of these different sectors
and that's why,
as Moby was saying,
having all of these
different contributors.
I mean we have the CEO
of the country's largest
Animal Advocacy
Organization
standing side by side
with the CEO of one of,
in my opinion you know,
most important retail stores
in the country,
in terms of advocating
for the reduction
of suffering, standing
next to a pig farmer,
the manager
of “Niman Ranch Pork.”
And the fact that we have
all of these people standing
shoulder to shoulder and
just saying, “Industrial
animal agriculture
is not okay, and we can
all do something about it
every single time
that we eat.”
Respected viewers,
we appreciated
your company today
on Vegetarian Elite.
We’ll see you again
next week
for the second half
of our special feature
on “Gristle” and
the multifaceted Moby.
Up next
on Supreme Master
Television
is Between Master
and Disciples.
Blessed be your
compassionate hearts.
Find out more about
Moby and “Gristle” at
Moby.com
and
Gristle-Book.com
So Miyun came up
with the title "Gristle."
And we then tried
contacting a bunch
of relative experts
in their respective fields,
or experts
in their respective fields,
to see if they would
contribute chapters.
And we got lucky
because we ended up
with a really interesting,
eclectic, well-informed
bunch of people
who have all contributed
amazing chapters about
each respective aspect
of the consequences
of animal production.
Welcome to
Vegetarian Elite
for the second part
of our special feature on
multiplatinum musician
Moby, and “Gristle,”
a newly released book
he co-edited
with Miyun Park.
Today, we will
look further into this
information-packed guide
that has received
a wide range of supporters,
from celebrities,
to doctors,
to the ordinary consumer.
Supreme Master
Television
interviewed Moby and
asked him what he hopes
readers will gain
from reading “Gristle.”
The main message is for
people to be more aware
of the ramifications
of animal production,
specifically
animal production
on factory farms.
So it’s a very factual book,
we have
15 different experts
in their respective fields,
writing
the different chapters.
We’re just sort of
presenting the facts and
hopefully letting people
make up their own minds.
The chapters
and their authors include:
Environment
by Lauren Bush,
Workers
by Christine Chavez and
Julie Chavez Rodriguez,
Zoonotic Diseases
by Dr. Michael Greger,
Children’s Health
by Sara Kubersky
and Tom O’Hagan,
Global Hunger
by Frances Moore Lappé
and Anna Lappé,
Taxpayers
by John Mackey,
Climate Change
by Danielle Nierenberg
and Meredith Niles,
Animals
by Wayne Pacelle,
and Communities by
Paul and Phyllis Willis.
Present at the first stop
of the book tour
in Los Angeles, USA
was two-time Canadian
Ultramarathon champion,
Ironman triathlete
competitor, and vegan,
Brendan Brazier,
who wrote Gristle’s
first chapter on Health.
When they asked me
if I could contribute
and write about health,
I thought, “Well
that’s a great opportunity
and I’d love
to spread a message that
I feel very strongly about
and feel as though
it could really help
a lot of people and animals
and environmental issues,
all kinds of things.
So, I’m really, really
proud to be a part of it.
Within this opening chapter
are facts about meats,
eggs, and dairy,
as researched
by the prestigious
Harvard University
in the US.
For example, did you know
that 90% of chicken flesh
tested at retail is
contaminated with E. coli
and campylobacter
from fecal matter?
This statistic makes chicken
the most common cause
of food poisoning,
affecting millions yearly.
Just one bout of
campylobacter can lead
to an entire lifetime of
irritable bowel syndrome.
Or did you know that the
leading cause of seizures
is from a brain parasite
called Taenia solium,
which is a tapeworm
found in pork.
The studies also found
that a single infection
of salmonella,
often found in eggs
and other contaminated
meat products,
can leave one with
painful, chronic arthritis
for the rest of their life.
And did you know
that mad cow disease,
which can even
be humanly contracted
from eating farmed fish
that was fed infected
cow meat, can be fatal?
In fact, the pathogens
cannot be cooked out,
even at temperatures
high enough to melt lead.
One of the most popular
topics of the evening
was tax subsidies
for the meat industry,
a subject often shielded
from public knowledge.
The meat lobby,
the factory farming lobby
is not so happy
about our book and
so they issued a statement
saying something like,
“Oh, it’s easy
for rich rock stars
to eat vegan, but
what about the rest of us
who can’t afford it?”
I was like, “Well,
remove the subsidies,
create a level playing field,
and a pound of beef
without subsidies
would on average
costs about what, $25?
A meal for 4
at McDonalds, if you
removed all subsidies,
would be about $75.”
Removing subsides
from dairy production,
from beef production,
from tobacco production,
why not?
I mean,
if we’re talking about
lowering the money that
we pay into federal taxes,
why not cut out subsidies?
Vegan food is inherently
less expensive
than animal food, it just is.
It’s more efficient,
and it’s less,
inherently less expensive.
Food subsidies,
in a very egregious way,
distort the cost of food.
It’s easy for me
to talk about veganism
because it’s a healthier way
for people to live.
And if you removed
food subsidies it would be
a less expensive way
for people to live.
I don’t know
if people are talking about
lowering their tax bill
and employing
free market economics,
animal production would
be a great place to start.
Let a pound of beef cost
what a pound of beef
actually costs without
tax payer subsidies.
Without
much public knowledge,
billions upon billions
of tax dollars
are pumped out to
subsidize animal factories.
A 2008 report
from the Union
on Concerned Scientists
found that every year,
US$1.16 billion goes
to subsidize distributing
and applying manure
to fields,
$1.5 – 3 billion in taxes
is wasted
on animal agriculture’s
antibiotic overuse and
public health impacts.
In total, over $30.1 billion
in taxes has been used to
fix manure lagoon leaks
and paying for
falling property values.
In effect,
unhealthy fast food meals
cost dramatically less
than nutrient rich organic
fruits and vegetables.
Part of my childhood,
I grew up in the inner city
and we were very poor
and so I know exactly
what that’s like.
We wouldn’t have access
to fresh food, so we’d
just go to McDonald’s
or Burger King.
McDonalds, and
In & Out Burger, and
Burger King, the reason
they can charge nothing
for their food,
is because it’s so heavily
subsidized by tax payers.
You remove
the tax dollars or
redistribute the subsides
so the subsides
go to promote
healthy agriculture
and go to promote
food stuffs that actually
don’t kill people.
A family of four,
a woman who’s
just finished her shift and
just wants to feed her kids,
is she going to go
to McDonald’s if it’s $75
to feed her kids a meal?
No, she’ll go
somewhere else, or
he’ll go somewhere else.
So, I think
it’s key to the idea
of examining subsidies
and removing subsidies
from really nefarious
agricultural practices
that hurt the animals,
that hurt the environment,
that hurt the communities,
and that hurt
the consumers.
If you look
to the plagues of
the 20th and 21st centuries -
heart disease, cancer,
obesity, diabetes – these
are all related to diet,
and they’re all related
to diet that is subsidized
by our tax dollars.
And so end the subsidies
and shift the focus away
from industries that
create unhealthy food
to industries
that create healthy foods.
When we return
from this brief message,
we will examine
one of the hottest
and most relevant topics
of our era – climate change
and its worrisome effect
on the environment
and our existence.
You are watching
Vegetarian Elite
on Supreme Master
Television.
Welcome back to
Vegetarian Elite.
In our brief intermission,
could you guess
how many animals
were slaughtered
simply for consumption?
In those brief two minutes,
around 43,500
innocent animals
had been killed in the US
to be the meat
on someone’s plate.
So they got this one page
and it says, "Number
of animals killed per year
in the United States:
it’s 11,429,831,400.”
That’s in a year and
that’s a huge number!
But then
you break it down,
and then number of
animals killed per day:
31,314,000.
And then number of
animals killed per minute
in the United States:
21,750. One minute!
The book’s editors
discussed several topics
often unknown
to the general public –
the filthy and
hazardous conditions
of factory farms.
One in four animal farm
workers suffer from
respiratory problems like
asthma and bronchitis
brought on
by noxious gases
including hydrogen sulfide,
methane, and ammonia.
Dust and harmful bacteria
generated by
decomposing manure
can cause toxic,
oxygen-deficient, and
explosive atmospheres.
To contain the toxic waste
produced by the animals,
factory farms
make manure pits.
The National Institute
for Occupational Safety
and Health, NIOSH,
they are so concerned
about these
manure lagoons that are
on so many factory farms,
that they actually have
a publication
that’s called, quote
“Preventing Deaths
of Farm Workers
in Manure Pits.”
Human Rights Watch has
determined that working
in a slaughter plant,
is the most dangerous
factory job in the country.
And no one wants to
live by a factory farm.
Gristle’s chapter
on Communities details
the falling property values
around factory farms.
Pig factories
in the US state of Iowa
lowered by 40%
the value of homes
located within half a mile;
homes within 1 mile
were robbed 30%
of their property values.
An undisputable part
of the event’s discussion
dealt with climate change
and meat production.
A report
by the United Nations
Food and Agriculture
(FAO) underlined
that livestock production
is the number one cause
of climate change, causing
at least one-fifth of all
greenhouse gas emissions.
It’s so strange
that people will talk,
be advocates
for climate change, and
still eat animal products
and still support
factory farming.
I mean it is, not to indulge
in too much hyperbole,
but that’s
the equivalent of like,
working on heart disease
and lung cancer
and smoking cigarettes.
CNN and CBS
legal analyst,
and attorney Lisa Bloom,
also present
at Gristle’s book event,
offered her comments
on the direct connection
between meat raising and
environmental degradation.
Well
I’m a lifelong vegetarian
and I’m a vegan now.
There’s no question that
the number one contributor
to climate change
is livestock production.
In fact, more than all of
the cars, planes, trains,
and boats in the world
contributes
to climate change.
And climate change
is the biggest threat to
my children’s generation.
It’s probably
going to be the biggest
humanitarian crisis
in world history.
So I think we all have
a moral imperative to do
whatever we can to stop it.
And the quickest way
to make an effect
is to immediately start
on a vegan diet.
It also happens
to be delicious
and good for your health
so it’s a win-win.
But you know,
the methane gas
that cows produce
which is a big contributor
to climate change will
very quickly disappear
from the atmosphere
if we stop producing
livestock, versus the CO2
stays in the atmosphere
for a very long time,
so it just makes sense
on so many levels
to stop eating meat,
to stop eating any kind
of dairy products or eggs,
from a climate change
point of view and also to
reduce animal suffering,
and also for human health.
Towards the end of question
and answer session with
members of the audience,
Moby offered
a poignant notion
for consideration.
There’s a fallacy called
“The Is-Ought Fallacy,”
which is to justify
the continuation
of a bad practice because
it’s already in existence,
which is what,
how people use
the argument they used
to justify the slavery.
Saying like, “Oh, well,
slavery exists because
it’s always existed.”
And one of the arguments
before the Civil War,
for the continuation
of slavery was that it was
the economic engine
that ran the country.
So people, a lot of people
pre-Civil War said,
“Yes, slavery is bad, but
without it, what happens
to our industry?”
And unfortunately, from
an ethical prospective,
I don’t think that’s
it’s enough a justification
for continuing really
nefarious practices.
In this particular case,
animal products are
an incredibly inefficient
use of resources,
specifically grains.
It takes an awful lot
of grain, let’s say,
20 pounds of grain
to make 1 pound of beef;
chicken is
even less efficient.
And so, if you’re making
less animal products,
it actually does more
to solve the issue
of global hunger, and
more to solve the issue
of keeping people fed
in the inner city,
because you have
all this extra grain
that can suddenly go
to feed people directly,
rather than fattening up
cows and chickens.
Thank you
for your company today
on Vegetarian Elite.
We would like to
express our gratitude
to Moby, Miyun Park,
and all the contributors
of this informative book.
May your dedication
as purveyors of truth
bring awareness
to the public about
the harrowing effects
of animal agriculture
which jeopardizes
all facets of life.
And now,
please stay with us
for Between Master
and Disciples,
coming up next
on Supreme Master
Television.
May wisdom
and compassion
guide your life always.
Find out more about
Moby and “Gristle” at
Moby.com
and
Gristle-Book.com
Frances Fisher(f): My friend Moby just co-wrote a book called “Gristle” about from factory farms to food safety, about the impact of raising animals and what it does to our environment, not to mention what it does to our own bodies.
And it just shows that, that it’s better and more efficient and more productive to have a vegetarian or vegan diet. Vegan essentially.
HOST: “Gristle: from Factory Farms to Food Safety (Thinking Twice About the Meat We Eat)” was released in March of 2010. When the book’s co-editors, Moby with Miyun Park, first went on tour to promote its release, Supreme Master Television was present on their first stop in Los Angeles, California, USA in support of the book’s message. To our pleasant surprise, we were met by some of our mutual friends:
Find out more about Moby and “Gristle” at
Moby.com and
Gristle-Book.com